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Re: Spielburg movie blunder private ryan

Postby Christian Ankerstjerne » Thu May 29, 2008 8:40 am

Yep, that's the one.

I'm pretty sure that you'd be able to find a version with English subtitles.

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Postby bf109 Emil » Thu May 29, 2008 10:24 pm

I will try and find this copy, but will have to use amazon, as it seems i live in cowboy Saudi Arabia, things have turned and unless it is related to oil, pfffft, the chances of finding most things...i listed here the est. oil sands (barrels) deemed recoverable using todays technology in my province at 1.7 trillion barrels, with another 3.6 trillion not deemed recoverable using steam, but future knowledge maybe able to extract..Oil sands may represent as much as two-thirds of the world's total petroleum resource, with at least 1.7 trillion barrels (270×109 m3) in the Canadian Athabasca Oil Sands and perhaps 235 billion barrels (37×109 m3) of extra heavy crude in the Venezuelan Orinoco tar sands [6] Between them, the Canadian and Venezuelan deposits contain about 3.6 trillion barrels (570×109 m3) of oil in place, compared to 1.75 trillion barrels (280×109 m3) of conventional oil worldwide, most of it in Saudi Arabia and other Middle-Eastern countries. A scandinavian company from Norway est production per day is ( I included this as some of these barrels might be sent to Denmark)..
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A friend recommended the movie "Cross of Iron" has anyone scene this??? and is it worth pursuing???
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Re: Spielburg movie blunder private ryan

Postby Notmi » Fri May 30, 2008 4:31 am

bf109 Emil wrote:A friend recommended the movie "Cross of Iron" has anyone scene this??? and is it worth pursuing???

Well, its directed by Sam Peckinpah, starred by James Coburn, Maximillian Schell and David Warner. So it cannot be bad. Except the ending which is a bit... strange.
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Postby FNG » Fri May 30, 2008 6:35 am

Notmi wrote:
bf109 Emil wrote:A friend recommended the movie "Cross of Iron" has anyone scene this??? and is it worth pursuing???

Well, its directed by Sam Peckinpah, starred by James Coburn, Maximillian Schell and David Warner. So it cannot be bad. Except the ending which is a bit... strange.



This is a great film and one of the few US films to shot from the german side.

I always thought the ending was, erm cute?

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Re: Spielburg movie blunder private ryan

Postby SturmTiger » Fri May 30, 2008 3:35 pm

What's the story with 'The Grey Zone'?I've never heard of it.When was it released?
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Postby Christian Ankerstjerne » Sat May 31, 2008 12:21 pm

It came out in 2001, but never really received much attention, probably due to its rather unfortunate premiere date (2001-09-13) in Canada. It was re-released in 2002.

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Re: Spielburg movie blunder private ryan

Postby wooden major » Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:29 am

"cross of iron " was based on a very good german novel , the movie itself was a very poor adaptation imo .anyone remember the books title ? ..i dont think it was the same as the movie ...james coburn at sixty was somewhat long in the tooth to portray a german infantry NCO .

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Postby bf109 Emil » Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:14 pm

Kelly heroes tank scene....an oldie, but one not filled with the love romance crap that wrecked Pearl Harbour...and the song i've been working on the railroad suits it goodhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-RP8-UGvx4&feature=related
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Postby bf109 Emil » Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:15 pm

Sutherland is one wacky Canadian...lol...i'm going to have to go buy this movie...
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Postby Hoosier » Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:09 pm

emil:
I always loved that segment.
The loudspeaker on Oddball's Sherman playing country-western music was freaky. (It's Hank Williams Jr singing: "All for the Love of Sunshine.") This was Hank's first #1 billboard magazine single back in... 1970!
Artistic license I suppose.
It works almost as well as the song they played as they drove away from the carnage they had created:
"I've been Working on the Railroad."
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Postby bf109 Emil » Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:00 am

does anyone recall in the movie when Oddball's driver/tanker got wind of some Tiger tanks in town he got all excited and i still remember Sutherlands comment, of...nobody said nothing of locking horns with tigers, as they where assaulted by them Tigers in Bocage...and how firing paint at them made pretty scenes..or adding a piece of pipe let them think their puny 75 was now a ?????????
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Re: Spielburg movie blunder private ryan

Postby TISO » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:39 pm

You forgot a little modification to their Shermans mentioned by Screwball before the action (when Clint goes to negotiate with Screwball) i.e. turning a gearbox around giving the tanks slower speed in attack but much better speed in inevitable retreat.
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In reality this were upgunned Shermans of Yugoslav army recived after we broke with Stalin. Tiger's are masked T-34/85. All military equipment (including bailey bridge, jeeps, trucks...) was loaned courtesy of Yugoslav poeples army :twisted: Same goes for "Steiner - Cross of iron" first part (east front).
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Re: Spielburg movie blunder private ryan

Postby bf109 Emil » Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:37 am

Hart's war in the P-51 scene i believe i watched in the making that the planes where flown from Czech republic or Czechoslovakia.

The blunder in this movie is when they talked about the pilot in court..as Lt. Hart states 9 downed German aircraft....numerous pilots had more then one confirmed kill, but none exceeded 4, or so i have read...

Also the movie Tuskegee airmen stated not one bomber was lost to enemy planes while escorting...
While it had long been said that the Redtails were the only fighter group who never lost a bomber to enemy fighters,[12] suggestions to the contrary, combined with Air Force records and eyewitness accounts indicating that at least 25 bombers were lost to enemy fire[13], resulted in the Air Force conducting a reassessment of the history of this famed unit in late 2006.

The claim that no bomber escorted by the Tuskegee Airmen had ever been lost to enemy fire first appeared on 24 March 1945, in the Chicago Defender, under the headline "332nd Flies Its 200th Mission Without Loss." According to the 28 March 2007 Air Force report, however, some bombers under 332nd Fighter Group escort protection were shot down on the very day the Chicago Defender article was published.[14][15][16][17] The subsequent report, based on after-mission reports filed by both the bomber units and Tuskegee fighter groups as well as missing air crew records and witness testimony, was released in March 2007 and documented 25 bombers shot down by enemy fighter aircraft while being escorted by the Tuskegee Airmen.
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Re: Spielburg movie blunder private ryan

Postby bf109 Emil » Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:40 am

I would like to know, in the Movie..."Letters from Iwo Jima" if indeed General Kuribayashi, the Japanese Commander of Iwo Jima, did read the letter found in a captured American G.I's pockety, or was this inserted to show the Japanese or commander as having a heart or teach Japanese to see the enemy as being such, when he questioned another if they had ever met an American prior to fighting them????
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Re: Spielburg movie blunder private ryan

Postby Hoosier » Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:07 pm

emil:
You mean this dialogue?
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Kelly: Well Oddball, what do you think?
Oddball: It's a wasted trip baby. Nobody said nothing about locking horns with no Tigers.
Big Joe: Hey look, you just keep them Tigers busy and we'll take care of the rest.
Oddball: The only way I got to keep them Tigers busy is to LET THEM SHOOT HOLES IN ME!
Crapgame: Hey, Oddball, this is your hour of glory. And you're chickening out!
Oddball: To a New Yorker like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Tigers.
Kelly: Nobody's asking you to be a hero.
Oddball: No? Then YOU sit up in that turret baby.
Kelly: No, because you're gonna be up there, baby, and I'll be right outside showing you which way to go.
Oddball: Yeah?
Kelly: Yeah.
Oddball: Crazy... I mean like, so many positive waves... maybe we can't lose, you're on!
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