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FURY the movie, what did you think?

Postby dutchman » Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:14 pm

Well, the early reviews are in and not all are positive. One went so far to say by the end of the movie they were hoping Brad Pitts character would get shot! Good or bad tell us what you think, but be decent about it! :D

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Re: FURY the movie, what did you think?

Postby FNG » Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:40 pm

Forgetting the plot, script and acting

Whats the special affects like and how technically accurate is it?

Is it along side Saving Private Ryan or down with Patton?
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Re: FURY the movie, what did you think?

Postby TISO » Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:43 pm

FNG wrote:Forgetting the plot, script and acting

Whats the special affects like and how technically accurate is it?

Is it along side Saving Private Ryan or down with Patton?


KHHHM They have a real Tiger playing
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Re: FURY the movie, what did you think?

Postby Ricky » Sat Oct 18, 2014 1:34 pm

I haven't seen it yet (don't worry, I'm not bothered about spoilers ;) ) - I've arranged to go and see it with Roel (oldsters here will remember him)
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Re: FURY the movie, what did you think?

Postby Hoosier » Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:31 pm

Wow... I was just 'blown-away' at the Saturday matinee today.
By the time 'Fury' was half-over I felt like I was the 6th man in a 5-man crew.
Tiger #131 was looking magnificent... and the gunfire. Oh my. .30s and .50s hammering away, MG42 and AT guns, Sherman and German 75's and of course the dreaded .88. The sound of it all was... well, judge for yourself. No obviously faked-German or US hardware/vehicles that I could see and I looked hard.
Brad Pitt carried a German assault-rifle, but there were Thompson's and 'Grease guns as crew-weapons. Lot's of camera-work inside the office of a Sherman.
I have to say I was pleasantly surprised... without commenting on the plot. From a technical standpoint, it appears they tried to do justice to US tankers. Lot's of fighting and lots of dying.
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Postby Hoosier » Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:35 pm

You too Ricky and Roel... and I haven't forgotten TISO.
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Re: FURY the movie, what did you think?

Postby TISO » Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:39 pm

Don't worry i'll watch the movie, but remember before Fury there was sgt.Oddball: :D

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Postby Hoosier » Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:28 am

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Re: FURY the movie, what did you think?

Postby SturmTiger » Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:42 pm

We checked it out last night and loved it.It's definitely worth a look,especially on the big screen.
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Re: FURY the movie, what did you think?

Postby dutchman » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:34 pm

You know it would have been cool to do what Eastwood and Speilberg did with "Flags of our Fathers and Letter from Iwo Jima" I'd love to see the other half from the Tigers crew view point. But the equipment is refreshing to see. I've listened to lots of folks on here running the Tiger down. To a point of course they are right the reputation out grew the vehicle, things like that are always happen. But when you see the old tank it's impressive. Maybe it's just the design, no attention to slope no reguard for width of weight. It's just a block of steel with attitude! Oh well just giving my impression, not backed by any facts or statistics, just the way it appeared to me.

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Re: FURY the movie, what did you think?

Postby Hoosier » Sun Oct 26, 2014 11:32 pm

My first thought was also--take us inside the "office" of the Tiger for a German perspective of the fight--but then I realized that would have weakened and diluted the movie plot.
This was all about the crew of "Fury" and fighting Panzers with a Sherman M4. You know the effort to show how the crew had fought together reminded me of Sgt Lafayette Pool and the crew of "In the Mood" during Operation Cobra.
http://www.3ad.com/history/wwll/pool.lafayette.htm

And now I know where Pitt got the name "War Daddy."

"MY PUPS"
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So quiet, so serene ...
So intensely silent I was filled with it body and soul. I heard no sounds, no wind, no movement, nothing. So tranquil ... so dark ...
"Where am I?" Did I say that aloud, or just in my head? The silence was so thorough, the blackness so even, my voice could not crack it. Then I remembered the explosion. Our unit had breached the dragons' teeth of the Siegfried Line. We were just outside Munsterbusch, south of Aachen, Germany, taking the war home to the Fuehrer and his henchmen.

It was the last day we were supposed to be in Europe. My crew and I were being rotated stateside; Colonel Richardson wanted us to be safe. "No spearheading today, Pool," he had said. "You guys are heroes and I want you going home to mama safe and sound. You take the flank." Seems he forgot to tell the German troops with the 88 hidden behind the garage door. I saw the door go up and I looked directly into the long snout of the howitzer. Too late, I whispered to my driver, "Back her up, Baby." The shell striking the turret sounded like a cathedral bell. It hit our ammo racks full on.

"If it's this quiet, I must be dead." I tried to make my brain work. "If this is Heaven, why aren't there angels? How come there's no singing?" It was just quiet, and it was dark, dark as the bottom of a well, or a dungeon, or "Am I in Hell?" There was no crying, no agony, no praying for mercy. Just silence. Then a voice in the darkness, "Where are you bums? You know you can't hide from the War Daddy." Someone was there. I strained to hear more, to feel something. Slowly, I felt myself emerging from the darkness. "War Daddy". That was what my men called me. Who was talking about me? There was a familiarity about that voice and those words. It was my voice I had heard!

Another voice, calm, soft, gentle, soothing, "Take it easy, Sarge." I must be alive. There was someone nearby. "Who goes there?" I growled. "What's the password?""Take it easy, Sergeant. You've been wounded." I could not move. I was beginning to get a sense of my body - at least I had a body - but now it wouldn't move. I could feel restraints, so I knew I wasn't paralyzed. Someone had me tied down. "Let me up, you bast...""Calm down, Sergeant. You're alright."

I forced my eyes to open. There, in a misty haze directly above me, stood an angel, all in white, complete with a white crown on her head. I was right the first time; I am in Heaven! Then the mist began to recede and the "angel" came into focus-an Army nurse in her starched white uniform. I looked around. White walls, windows, other beds. A hospital. But we were just hit. My tank is still backing away from the line of fire. "Where am I?" "You're in a hospital in England, Sergeant."

"Impossible, my men ... England? What day is this?" "October 9th, Sarge," her kind voice was reassuring. Nevertheless, she was wrong. It was September 19th. I remembered that much. It was, after all, our last day in the European Theater of Operations. We were to be in the States on October 1 for a war bonds tour. "Where are my men? Where is my crew?" Over the months of training for the invasion and retaking of Western Europe, I had assembled the most unlikely band of brothers, the most motley of crews. They were misfits all, but they were my "pups", and I had helped turn them into the most formidable fighting crew in all of the Allied forces.

We were the supermen; we had proved Hitler wrong. We were the invincible arm of the Lord's wrath. We were the battlefield inheritors of the mounted knights of old-Gawain and Galahad and Lancelot. We were the inheritors of their mantle of chivalry, as well. We were fighting a war we saw simply as good against evil. In the manner of all tight-knit groups of our age, we had given each other nicknames, small endearments that, in a later age, would pass out of favor. I was the "War Daddy", fierce and fearless leader of the boys of "In The Mood", our tank. Actually, it was our third tank, all named "In The Mood". The other two had been shot out from under us in our bloody, muddy march across northern France and Belgium.

My driver was PFC Wilbert Richards, five foot four at full attention. We called him "Baby". He could have parallel parked that big Sherman in downtown New York in rush hour traffic. Then there was Cpl. Bert "School Boy" Close, seventeen years old, still with peach fuzz on his gentle face, co-driver and machine gunner to the stars. T/5 Del Boggs, my loader, had been arrested on manslaughter charges. The court gave him the choice of prison or the military. What could we call him but "Jailbird"?

Cpl. Willis Oller was my gunner. I often bragged that he could shoot the eyebrows off a gnat at 1500 yards with our seventy-six millimeter gun. He had seen every mile of the terrain we had liberated between Normandy and the Rhine through the sights of that big gun; he was always looking for targets, he was always looking for a fight, always ready to fire. The imprint of tanker's goggles permanently stained his face. We never referred to him by any name but "Ground Hog".

"Where is my crew?" I demanded again. "Where are my pups?" "They're fine, Sarge. Just lie back and relax." She was trying to be reassuring, and I was not having it. "Don't give me that crock. The last thing I remember is dressing "Ground Hog's" leg. He was hurt pretty bad. Now I'm here in this ... Why am I here? And why can't I move?" My voice was beginning to sound a bit more plaintive than I wanted. But I was clearly not all right. Neither was Ground Hog. How was the rest of my crew? Where were they? "Where are my pups?" I barked. This time my voice sounded more like the sergeant's voice I had trained and mastered.

Two big corpsmen came into view, one on either side of me. They were holding me down. I also felt straps across my chest and waist. "You were wounded in both legs and back, Sarge. You were hurt pretty bad; we had to strap you down to keep you immobile." "Wounded?" I roared. "I'm the War Daddy! The Nazis haven't made the bullet with my name on it!" Suddenly I remembered a conversation as we were preparing for another spearhead assault, "It ain't the one with your name on it you got to worry about, War Daddy. It's that one marked 'To Whom It May Concern'." My voice lost its bluster as I turned and looked imploringly at the nurse, "Tell me straight, did my pups make it?"

She looked at me with an expression I could not read. Then she smiled. She walked to the door. "Come on in you goof-offs. You've been waiting nineteen days for this. Sergeant Pool's awake." Through the door walked three of the ugliest, goofiest, craziest ... most hard-working, kind, thoughtful warriors ever put on the planet. A five-foot-four redhead with an ear-to-ear grin on his face led them. Behind him was that gangly, blue-eyed "School Boy". Bringing up the rear was "Jail Bird". Close took one look at the traction rig they had me in and I saw a light go out in his eyes, and dark fury replace it. I was sure no one would call him "School Boy" again. "Jail Bird's" eyes had a steely glint as if he wanted to take on the entire German army single-handed.

Only "Baby" could speak. 'War Daddy', I knew I'd find you holding hands with a pretty nurse."His voice was shaking as he added, "The SOB's. Why did they have to do this to us?" 'Baby," I asked. "Where's 'Ground Hog'?" From outside the door came a voice I will know as long as I draw breath, "Hey you guys! I asked you to wait for me. You know I can't drive this darned chair so good." Through the door, grinning broadly, rolled "Ground Hog" Oller. "Hey, 'War Daddy'. I ain't never letting you doctor me again. You got the roughest hands I've ever felt."

Tears built up and rolled down my cheeks. I wept unashamedly. These were four men I was closer to than family. We had faced death repeatedly together. We had brought death to countless hundreds of our enemies who had sought to end our way of life. We had given the Nazis pure hell from the beaches of Normandy right to Hitler's front yard. I tried to sound tough, "You bums were due in the States to sell war bonds on the first. What are you doing goofing off in England?" "Baby" replied gently, "'War Daddy', you know we vowed that it was all or nothing. If we can't all go, none of us will. We talked to the Colonel before we left Germany. He's given us new jobs. I'm his driver now. Close will still be my bow gunner and 'Jail Bird' is my loader. You remember that Perkins guy, from when we were in the old 40th Regiment? He's our new gunner.

"We've got to go now, 'War Daddy'. You and 'Ground Hog' take it easy and get well." The softness faded from his eyes and an intense distance replaced it. Another generation of warriors would call it the "Thousand Yard Stare". His voice retained its gentle affection, however. He placed his hand on my chest as he added, "Me and the others, well, we got us a war to win." I saw versions of that same violent distance grow in each man's eyes. Slowly, they turned and walked out the door. As the door closed, I squeezed my eyes shut and whispered a small prayer, "Lord, take care of them."

My "pups" were gone. Somehow, somewhere those boys had grown into men; they had grown from scrappy pups to fighting dogs. The enemies of freedom had a new problem. Hell was on the line with a past due notice to serve.

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Re: FURY the movie, what did you think?

Postby 2nd.Dragoon » Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:53 am

The Bovvy Sherman and Tiger were great.pleased to see they had the sense to use Bovvy drivers......
Brad Pitts jacket was donated to the 'Light Dragoons' for their charity after there battle field knowledge in Shermans...it was on sale for £4'000................not too impressed with film.........but I was treated by a friend to the show.

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Re: FURY the movie, what did you think?

Postby Roel » Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:35 pm

Ricky and I didn't see it in the end. It was his fault.

A friend told me there was a scene which took the old made-up cliché that "it took 6 Shermans to kill a Tiger" and made that into a genuine combat situation. I'm sure my friend now hates me for the rant that ensued :mrgreen:
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Re: FURY the movie, what did you think?

Postby FNG » Sun Feb 22, 2015 10:15 pm

out on DVD now and seen it

Technically yes it looked stunning

I found the accents awkward to understand and script poor

I didn't like the plot at all. It was predictable and plodding
The end scene/battle struck me as utterly unrealistic and to much US propaganda - I'd be interested to see other peoples views on that if we don't mind spoilers now.

Too much of the gore was ripped off from private ryan and as such came across poorly.

Wouldn't watch it again

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Re: FURY the movie, what did you think?

Postby Roel » Wed May 13, 2015 11:01 pm

I just wrote a really long review of this and then discovered I was timed out. Maybe someday soon I'll have the energy to try and rewrite all that. :(
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