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Scale Model Helper - utility for color matching

Postby GreenDragon » Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:54 pm

Hi folks, I've been working on a free (no ads) application for Android mobile devices (requires android 4.0) for a bit now, which is intended for scale model builders and miniature painters.

You can download Scale Model Helper for Android at the link.
I also have an online version of it, as well as a blog where I will be posting further updates.

Right now I have FS, RAL, RLM, Humbrol, Revell, Tamiya, Vallejo, Testors, ANA colors in it, but I will add as many color brands as possible. I'm also planning to add a color inventory features and other stuff.

Anyway, check it out, and let me know what you think.

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Re: Scale Model Helper - utility for color matching

Postby JCalhoun » Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:45 am

Just in case you are interested, the Citadel Paints that Games Workshops markets has a very good match for the Panzer Dark Yellow called " Bubonic Brown".
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Re: Scale Model Helper - utility for color matching

Postby Ricky » Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:12 am

I haven't got a smartphone, but that sounds really useful.

I once made an enormous spreadsheet with all the paint brands I could find on it... useful, but unwieldy ;)


And here it is - if you find it helpful please feel free to make use of it

http://www.weaponsofwwii.com/forumfiles/Modelling/Paint%20conversion%20chart.xls
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Re: Scale Model Helper - utility for color matching

Postby GreenDragon » Wed Jun 19, 2013 6:09 pm

JCalhoun wrote:Just in case you are interested, the Citadel Paints that Games Workshops markets has a very good match for the Panzer Dark Yellow called " Bubonic Brown".


Thanks, but did you mean between their old line and new line, or between some other brand ?

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Re: Scale Model Helper - utility for color matching

Postby GreenDragon » Wed Jun 19, 2013 6:10 pm

Ricky wrote:I haven't got a smartphone, but that sounds really useful.

I once made an enormous spreadsheet with all the paint brands I could find on it... useful, but unwieldy ;)


And here it is - if you find it helpful please feel free to make use of it

http://www.weaponsofwwii.com/forumfiles/Modelling/Paint%20conversion%20chart.xls


Impressive :) I prefer to use the official color manufacturer matches, but I see that there are some brands in there that I wasn't aware of. I'll put it on my todo list.

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Re: Scale Model Helper - utility for color matching

Postby Ricky » Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:47 pm

GreenDragon wrote:Impressive :) I prefer to use the official color manufacturer matches, but I see that there are some brands in there that I wasn't aware of. I'll put it on my todo list.


I won't be offended if you don't use it :)

It is a compilation of both official comparison charts and some unofficial ones I found over the years.
What I did discover is that ever chart I use had at least 1 rather obvious error (equating a red for a blue etc) so tread carefully! If you see a box in red on the spreadsheet it is a match I am not convinced about
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Re: Scale Model Helper - utility for color matching

Postby GreenDragon » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:45 pm

Yeah, I found lots of mistakes in the official charts, where they'd reference a color number that is completely wrong, or a number that doesn't exist.

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Re: Scale Model Helper - utility for color matching

Postby JCalhoun » Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:18 pm

I'm not sure what they call it now but the color is the same.
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Re: Scale Model Helper - utility for color matching

Postby GreenDragon » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:19 pm

Version 1.5 is now available:
- New color brands: Citadel / Games Workshop
- New color standard: British Standard - a set of standards used in Britain for construction and engineering, including colors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standards). I've included BS381C, BS5252, BS2600 and BS4800
- Search improvements: I've switched to an OR mode from the previous mode, which was a simple text search without separating the search terms, because I've seen people doing searches on multiple words, but because they weren't exactly the same as the color name, they didn't find what they were looking for. However, this caused a bigger problem, in that later searches would bring back a lot more results than what people actually wanted to search for.
I did some changes to the grid and searches are now happening on the server side. This enables me to share the search code between the online version and the Android application, and being able to do better searches.
Search will now be an AND mode between each term, so searching for "blue angel" will find all the colors that have both "blue" and "angel" in them, for example Testors 2023 "Blue Angels Yellow".
Also, you can search on exact text by wrapping the search term in double quotes, and you can search only specific color brands by prefixing the color brand name and a colon to the search term, for example, fs:blue will search for anything containing the word blue in only the FS color brand, and fs:"blue" will search for exactly the word blue in the FS color brand.
See the Advanced Help button in the applications for more details and examples.
- Search will no longer search in the RGB values to prevent false positives when searching for color numbers.

I've also reset the poll for the color brands in the next version, so vote for your favorite color brand. Reaper so far is in the lead. Let me know if there are other color brands that you want to see.

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Re: Scale Model Helper - utility for color matching

Postby JCalhoun » Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:21 am

Awesome.

The only paint line I'm familiar with that is not listed is Floquil.
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Re: Scale Model Helper - utility for color matching

Postby GreenDragon » Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:52 am

I didn't add Floquil because the line is being discontinued.

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Re: Scale Model Helper - utility for color matching

Postby Ricky » Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:42 am

I find it is handy to keep old paint lines in the charts for 2 reasons:

1) modellors may have a fair amount of that brand of paint in their stash

2) instructions in older model kits may refer to those paints

Reason 2 is why I had Airfix paints in my chart, for example.
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Re: Scale Model Helper - utility for color matching

Postby Ricky » Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:43 am

by the way - please don't take that as a criticism - I think your chart is excellent and I'm grateful to you for sharing it with us. :)
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Re: Scale Model Helper - utility for color matching

Postby GreenDragon » Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:59 pm

>> by the way - please don't take that as a criticism - I think your chart is excellent and I'm grateful to you for sharing it with us.

Not at all, I want to get that kind of criticism, I want to improve the application and make it as easy to use as possible.
Regarding Floquil, I've been debating about adding it with myself (to be honest, I added the Testors line before I created some helper utilities to make it easier for me to collect the colors, so I was kinda lazy when skipping it :) I'll add it to my todo list after getting a few more of the more well known color brands.

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Re: Scale Model Helper - utility for color matching

Postby GreenDragon » Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:05 pm

It's a somewhat small update, but I wanted to finish it before getting to the new features I've been planning.

Here are the changes:

- Added Reaper colors
- Added Gunze colors
- Fixed bug when searching for some colors with the word grey, for example "ulthuan grey"
- Due to seeing people trying to search for specific brands but not adding colon, which would have returned zero results, I've added an option to search for specific colors with numbers without the colon. For example, instead of searching for "h:86" , you can write "h86" and get the same results. This will only work for searching for specific color numbers, otherwise you still need to separate the color brand and search term with ":" as explained in the Advanced Search section.
- Improved search speed

For the next version I'm planning a color inventory feature, as well as some more interactive features (flagging a color match and similar). I want people to be able to have access to their color inventory from either the online or the android versions, so I'll be doing an optional login of some sort, probably based on either facebook, google+, or just an email and password option, and the actual color inventory will be hosted on my server.

I'm also having some ideas about actual physical tools but I'm keeping it under wraps for the moment, I need to see how well it'll actually work out.

Scale Model Helper is a utility to make it easier for the scale model builder and miniature painter to match colors from different brands. There is an online version and an Android version.


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