The japanese armour and other vehicles thread

Discussion on the tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles, which participated in World War 2.
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Re: The japanese armour and other vehicles thread

Postby Shinhoto » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:05 am

Hi Tom,
I know your thread is a bit old but oh well...
I read about the Chi Ha Kai earlier and noticed your 50mm armor values for the front of the tank is this a mistake meant for the Manchurian Chi Has or something else.

Also, you claim the Ha Go with applique armor in Indo-China had 5mm applique armor while Taki claims that it had 10mm of iron plate and 1 inch of sandbages in between the armor and the hull. So my question is what evidence is there for each side.

Also, you talk about the chi-ha having side plates but then them being removed before production, what were their armor stats.





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Re: The japanese armour and other vehicles thread

Postby SturmTiger » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:12 pm

Sounds like tom! has some competition. Welcome to the forum,Shinhoto.
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Re: The japanese armour and other vehicles thread

Postby Shinhoto » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:12 pm

Hi SturmTiger,
Thanks for the welcoming....

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Re: The japanese armour and other vehicles thread

Postby Shinhoto » Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:46 am

Hi,
does Tom! use this thread any more?

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Re: The japanese armour and other vehicles thread

Postby Ricky » Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:06 am

Yes, but he doesn't visit every day ;)
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Re: The japanese armour and other vehicles thread

Postby Shinhoto » Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:58 am

Ricky wrote:Yes, but he doesn't visit every day ;)

Or every week for that matter......

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Re: The japanese armour and other vehicles thread

Postby tom! » Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:27 pm

Hi.

Shinhoto wrote:Hi Tom,
I know your thread is a bit old but oh well...
I read about the Chi Ha Kai earlier and noticed your 50mm armor values for the front of the tank is this a mistake meant for the Manchurian Chi Has or something else.

Also, you claim the Ha Go with applique armor in Indo-China had 5mm applique armor while Taki claims that it had 10mm of iron plate and 1 inch of sandbages in between the armor and the hull. So my question is what evidence is there for each side.

Also, you talk about the chi-ha having side plates but then them being removed before production, what were their armor stats.


Thanks,


-James



Sorry for me taking so long for reply but my health problems are still not solved and my internet access is limited at the moment.

- There were some Type 97 Chi-Ha KAI using the samme additional 25 mm armor on the turret front the Type 1 Medium Tank Chi-He had:

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The modification of the bow armor is mentioned in several japanese books but it seems to be experimental only.

- The Type 95 Ha-Go additional armor data were taken from Takis website but he removed this part in the meantime. From the photos the additional armor really seems to be 10 mm instead of 5 mm. But there are no sandbags visible:

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- The side plates above the ventilation /engine access hatch weren´t removed before production but replaced during production. The original gratings were implemented in a 10 mm plate and both versions of the additional armor had 10 mm, too. The improved additional armor was designed to reduce overheating even if closed, the original plates had to be lifted during travel (as visible in the upper picture) and had to be shut before action.

Changes:
- additional infos about the origin of the Fiat 3000
- changed armour values of the additional plates for Ha-Go

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tom! ;)

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Re: The japanese armour and other vehicles thread

Postby Melkieyunz » Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:10 am

The Ke-Ri used the regular turret of the Ha-Go to get the Type 97 57 mm Tank Gun in. I suppose that we can basically use the second version of the Ha-Go turret (16/16/16 mm) for that purpose instead of the historical first version (12/12/12 mm), although frankly I don't see the use given that there are hardly any room inside the one-person turret for the commander after getting the gun in.

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Re: The japanese armour and other vehicles thread

Postby tom! » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:18 pm

Hi.

Did some further research:

19) Special Purpose Engineer Vehicles:
- Type 4 Work Vehicle added

20) Special Purpose Construction Vehicles
- Light Armoured Dozer added
- Experimental Tunnel Digger added
- Experimental Earthmover added
- Armoured Dozers changed due to new, more detailed infos.


I´m quite impressed that this thread has more than 51500 clicks so far.......

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Re: The japanese armour and other vehicles thread

Postby Shinhoto » Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:29 am

Tom! You're alive!

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Re: The japanese armour and other vehicles thread

Postby Shinhoto » Sun Feb 15, 2015 9:26 pm

Melkieyunz wrote:The Ke-Ri used the regular turret of the Ha-Go to get the Type 97 57 mm Tank Gun in. I suppose that we can basically use the second version of the Ha-Go turret (16/16/16 mm) for that purpose instead of the historical first version (12/12/12 mm), although frankly I don't see the use given that there are hardly any room inside the one-person turret for the commander after getting the gun in.

Hi,
I finally found this thread again. Where did you hear about the late model ha go turret? I have never found any reference to it, unless you are referring to the ha go chassis and ke ni turret combination.

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Re: The japanese armour and other vehicles thread

Postby tom! » Thu Mar 31, 2016 4:19 pm

Hi.

Not really well yet but still alive....

Added the following on page 2:

13) Heavy Tanks:
Experimental Superheavy Tank O-I

There were some interesting archive finds in Japan about this quite mysterious vehicle and it seems the mystery is solved.

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Re: The japanese armour and other vehicles thread

Postby tom! » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:13 pm

Hi.

I relaunched my website today with additional content and a lot of pictures of different japanese weapon systems of WW2.

Yours

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Re: The japanese armour and other vehicles thread

Postby canambridge » Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:51 am

Leave us a link!

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Re: The japanese armour and other vehicles thread

Postby tom! » Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:43 am

Hi

Oops, forgot to update my signature. Should work now.

By the way, it's german only so far. It's planned to add at least a smaller english version in the next months.

Yours

tom! ;)


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